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    Uber and the end of drivers

    OK so the 'debate' on if uber is legal on Phuket is well and truly put to bed.. I see Grab Taxi has just started a competing app service on the island.. I guess those limos were 'taxis' after all huh Dodger !!

    But how about the next step

    Uber CEO To Tesla: Sell Me Half A Million Autonomous Electric Cars In 2020

    No more taxi drivers at all !!

    I bet that one will go down well

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    I was probably one of the 1st people I know that used Uber and used it religiously
    But the standards have dropped so bad I only used it twice in the 2 weeks I was just in the states

    When it 1st started it was professional drivers that decided to go out on their own
    Now it is every Muhammed with a Corolla

    Even worse.....I called for an Uber to take me to airport in Chicago
    A fcuking smart car pulled up!! A fcuking smart car
    The driver looked like a bum and when I got in the car he smelt like an ashtray
    Told him cancel the ride

    Half the times they can't find you anymore even though you input the address

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    But driverless ??

    A fleet of uber automated taxis.. No wages to pay at all..

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    I know we have some fundamental differences on economic matters, but I can't see either how this type of technological progress can be anywhere near sustainable for humanity in only the next few decades. However cool it sounds. And I don't think I'm being a Luddite either.

    Again, where are the middle-class wages going to come from? Which broad professions exactly are going to thrive? Oh, and let's not forget either that we've yet to reach peak population mostly due in already poor and resource-strapped areas throughout Africa. And of course, the warming of the planet will only make these matters that much worse. Somehow Greece is not the biggest worry anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundancekid View Post
    I know we have some fundamental differences on economic matters, but I can't see either how this type of technological progress can be anywhere near sustainable for humanity in only the next few decades. However cool it sounds. And I don't think I'm being a Luddite either.

    Again, where are the middle-class wages going to come from? Which broad professions exactly are going to thrive? Oh, and let's not forget either that we've yet to reach peak population mostly due in already poor and resource-strapped areas throughout Africa. And of course, the warming of the planet will only make these matters that much worse. Somehow Greece is not the biggest worry anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundancekid View Post
    I know we have some fundamental differences on economic matters, but I can't see either how this type of technological progress can be anywhere near sustainable for humanity in only the next few decades. However cool it sounds. And I don't think I'm being a Luddite either.

    Again, where are the middle-class wages going to come from? Which broad professions exactly are going to thrive? Oh, and let's not forget either that we've yet to reach peak population mostly due in already poor and resource-strapped areas throughout Africa. And of course, the warming of the planet will only make these matters that much worse. Somehow Greece is not the biggest worry anymore.
    Thats exactly the debate really..

    Bricklaying robots.. Burger making robots.. Taxi driving robots.. OK so thats the working class..

    What does the world look like when we dont work any more ?? Will it become some communist / socialist state dependant redistribution economy (I thought you would like that !!).. How does free market operate when 'work' itself is no longer of value ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivinLOS View Post
    What does the world look like when we dont work any more ?? Will it become some communist / socialist state dependant redistribution economy (I thought you would like that !!).. How does free market operate when 'work' itself is no longer of value ??
    That’s where you got me confused 555.

    I am most certainly no fan of Soviet style central planning, where the state owns the means of production. As a matter of fact, I would consider myself a capitalist through and through. But I also recognize that market forces cannot be let completely loose, as we then would naturally gravitate towards monopolies and price fixing. So yes, like it or not, we actually do need a government making rules and acting as an opposing force. Much like a referee in a football match. The perfect match is when you see as little of him as possible. But you still need the rules. So governments should be the facilitator of a private market, not a competition. I call it the “invisible hand of the state”, as most people do not realize the good it’s doing, but only pounces on the bad.

    Moreover, I also believe we should take care of the weak and the poor. And the only way possible to ensure that is if the wealthiest pay progressively more than the poorer. No, people on the left do not want people being dependent upon government. Of course not. We want as many people working as productively as possible.

    Obviously, when we reach very high levels of unemployment, that type of welfare state will not function properly anymore. And that’s the dangers I’m seeing as well.

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    Indeed. Physical labor is one thing, but when they start replacing legal assistants and even middle-management, that’s when we really need to worry. I’m even toying with AI-like neural networks myself, which could potentially decrease the need for junior web designers.

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