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    European Migration Crisis

    With all the Euro's on this board I'm quite surprised this isn't getting much discussion.

    Complicated stuff obviously.

    Two images seem to be sticking out for me.

    1)Thousands of people all screaming out Germany.....Germany

    2)The gut-wrenching pic of the young boy drowned on the Turkish beach

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    It's growing as an issue. I think a lot of us little islanders are seeing it as interesting but not really our problem. I would think many of those in the Schengen scheme are wishing they were'nt though.

    I've found a new admiration for Germany, I have to say. They are absorbing huge numbers of people and doing it with an aplomb that I can't remember ever seeing before.

    One thing I would say is that the whole mess plays into the hands of those who want the UK out of the EU. If there was a vote tomorrow I think we would be gone.

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    I was watching the Labour leader debate on Sky last night.So ironic how the one lady was saying how if the UK had more say in the EU you would have more influence in stopping Germany from punishing Greece.

    Germany certainly got the higher ground at the moment.

    But I wonder how this is going to play out in the long run? Probably lot's of refugee camps and lot's of problems.

    It's a tough one.

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    I don't like to talk about this, I feel very ashamed for the way Denmark and a lot of other European countries are reacting.

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    It's better to talk it out than just to ignore it GD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thin White Duke View Post
    It's better to talk it out than just to ignore it GD
    I can say what I feel (we should do whatever it takes to help) and what I would like EU to do (more), but it wouldn't change anything. It is actually quite depressing. I hope that the photo of the dead kid in the newspapers will help change the public opinion.

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    I reckon it is time to start recognising there are major problems everywhere.

    But being depressed isn't the solution.

    Of course America being the tall poppy always gets hit.But this is now a global problem that needs to be solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatdane View Post
    I hope that the photo of the dead kid in the newspapers will help change the public opinion.
    I hope so as well but worry that more 'fake' stories will appear and make the general public question what is real.

    Fake Syria orphan photo wasn't taken in Syria and not of orphan - Middle East - World - The Independent

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    Well if it was from Egypt would it make a difference?

    Thousands of pictures of Ethiopians...Bob Geldolf etc over the years.

    Hope he will put out a song over this one on his doorstep.
    Last edited by Thin White Duke; 5th September 2015 at 16:23. Reason: Geldof spelling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thin White Duke View Post
    Well if it was from Egypt would it make a difference?

    Thousands of pictures of Ethiopians...Bob Geldolph etc over the years.

    Hope he will put out a song over this one on his doorstep.
    Just offering his home for now...

    Bob Geldof Offers His Home To Syrian Refugees
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    Yay a concert in the making

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    ^ Unfair, Bob Geldoff is as genuine as it gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thin White Duke View Post
    I was watching the Labour leader debate on Sky last night.So ironic how the one lady was saying how if the UK had more say in the EU you would have more influence in stopping Germany from punishing Greece.

    Germany certainly got the higher ground at the moment.

    But I wonder how this is going to play out in the long run? Probably lot's of refugee camps and lot's of problems.

    It's a tough one.
    For me this is the biggest problem; this is Nick Clegg and his student loans promise. Politicians on the sidelines will throw brickbats and talk about what we should be doing and what they would do if only the nasty bastards in power would get out of the way. Of course, when the opportunity comes along the reality, as the spineless Clegg found, is very different.

    It's easy to say what should be done from the sidelines. Very difficult, very different, when you are there front and centre. Our Labour party should shut the fuck up over this, they are currently an irrelevant minority and have virtually zero influence. They try to make political mileage out of something that should really transcend politics; I find that despicable.

    Germany can hold its head high at the moment but I don't believe it will last. The far right will have its say and it will get messy over there. Fair play though, as I said at the start, they are head and shoulders above the rest of us so far.
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    Good on genuine guys like Bob Geldof.

    Does this mean that all those in Calais should also take heart...?

    David Cameron: UK to accept 'thousands' more Syrian refugees - BBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Changone View Post
    Good on genuine guys like Bob Geldof.

    Does this mean that all those in Calais should also take heart...?

    David Cameron: UK to accept 'thousands' more Syrian refugees - BBC News
    I thought that myself. We aren't about to open up the floodgates at Calais so what is Cameron thinking? Is he going to send someone to cherry pick through the million or so sat in camps on the Turkish border?

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    Also, I wonder if Eropean countries are about to start thinking differently over military intervention in Syria? End the war, end of problem...

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    Right on cue:

    Syria conflict: Ministers to 'argue for UK military action' - BBC News

    'Syria conflict: Ministers to 'argue for UK military action'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve@thaib View Post
    Also, I wonder if Eropean countries are about to start thinking differently over military intervention in Syria? End the war, end of problem...
    The problem is that the west cannot end the war in an acceptable way. That is actually what they have been trying for some years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatdane View Post
    The problem is that the west cannot end the war in an acceptable way. That is actually what they have been trying for some years now.
    I guess, then, that there is a change coming in what we see as acceptable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatdane View Post
    The problem is that the west cannot end the war in an acceptable way. That is actually what they have been trying for some years now.
    What is an acceptable way these days?

    Military intervention seems to be code for "More Bombing" nowadays.

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