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    Old people dont get the 'Green Thing'... Good Rant..

    In the queue at the store, the cashier told an older woman that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment. The woman apologized to him and explained, "We didn't have the green thing back in my day."

    The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment."

    He was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.

    Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

    We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day.

    Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw-away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry the clothes. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that old lady is right; we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

    Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used a wadded up old newspaper to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right; we didn't have the green thing back then.

    We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then.

    Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.

    But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?

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    I agree with a lot that you say happened back then....but....we weren't doing that stuff to be green. That was just the way it was. And driving 8 cylinder tons of steel was what we did back then. The 1960s were the worst for pollution and industrial dumping. Environmental concerns weren't addressed until the 1970s.

    Back then me and my brothers shoveled in the winter. This was a 2 by 3 car size driveway. Probably why I had back problems since I was a teen. As soon as the last brother moved out Dad bought the gas powered snow blower..55

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    Absolutely correct Dupes. Just a complete muddling of generational responsibility.

    Sure, we did a lot of bad things to the environment "back then", but some of it has actually improved. Look at air pollutants since the 80s for instance, due to us understanding more about the consequences and well... science.

    And of course, that hypothetical and purely fictional straw man argument never actually took place, right? You're smarter than that LiL...

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    I don't think Lil wrote that... just a cut and paste isn't it?

    This is a replacement for the Global Climate Change thread isn't it... 555

    Lets throw this in...

    Arctic methane release - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Milk and bread were delivered fresh daily by horse and cart - and the discharge was collected for the veggie garden.

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    so.....someone trying to tell me the the world is a less polluted place now than when I was a kid???....
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    Maybe another way to look at this would be to compare the carbon footprint of a person today with when us old timers were young.
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    Yeah and "8 cylinder tons of steel"? - only in America 555!
    They were rare in the rest of the world (apart from the tanks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by soupdragon View Post
    Maybe another way to look at this would be to compare the carbon footprint of a person today with when us old timers were young.
    I hardly ever wore shoes as a kid 555

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilbaz View Post
    Yeah and "8 cylinder tons of steel"? - only in America 555!
    They were rare in the rest of the world (apart from the tanks).
    Were you riding kangaroos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilbaz View Post
    Yeah and "8 cylinder tons of steel"? - only in America 555!
    They were rare in the rest of the world (apart from the tanks).
    You know you admired them Baz. You know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dupree View Post
    Were you riding kangaroos?
    Nope - cars the size you mothertruckers should be using now.

    However - Slambo is right - North America ruined me with its cheap prices - cars and gasoline - way back then 555!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ub2yoo View Post
    In our office kitchen, there are 3 garbage bins labeled: General, Paper & Tin.

    ... and every time the kitchen guy comes with one big black bag and empties all 3 bags into that big one ... and nicely setups the 3 garbage bins again.

    You just scratch your head and wonder ...

    And no-one has trained him?

    Whose fault is that?

    In Perth we had a 3 bin system -recyclables , green waste (for composting) and food waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilbaz View Post
    And no-one has trained him?

    Whose fault is that?

    In Perth we had a 3 bin system -recyclables , green waste (for composting) and food waste.
    Vancouver is much more recycle friendly than anywhere i been to in US

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    Just a thought on the whole environmental and "green" issues. Isn't that a direction we should be striving to move towards? Like, wind over oil, organic over pesticides?

    Absolutely appalled by watching stuff like Food Inc. and how we pump the live stock full hormones and antibiotics to keep these poor creatures alive for maximum profit. To the point where their legs literally snap as they can't support the weight and force-fed food they never should be consuming in the first place. Standing in their own shit and piss. Certainly unethical and even borderline criminal from my point of view.

    Cows are fed cheap corn because of government subsidies. And oil companies make record profits from past government subsidies. But when wind and solar gets similar treatments, that's cronyism...

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    ^Does he still "tut tut" if he sees paper mixed up in the tin bin? ...555

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    Quote Originally Posted by ub2yoo View Post
    Well, when we checked why this is done like this, no one seemed to know the next step of the recycle procedure outside the office ... not even our office admin.
    (I also have the feeling no one is really bothered too much to investigate properly)

    There are occasional recycle bins in Dubai, only at very few spots, you really have to search for them. The city is lacking behind big time when it comes to going green.

    But even then ... they guy keeps setting up separate bins and put them into one garbage bag at the end every time.
    I tried to explain several times, but they don't understand. We're now at the 3rd kitchen guy in a row who inherits that procedure from the previous one, and just
    carries out the task as instructed, whether it makes sense or not.
    OK. Here's the plan. Place your items in the wrong bins. Make him come to you.

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    But the plastic bags from the supermarkets were green.......they were after all normally re-used as bin liners. Now I have to go out and buy bin liners specially
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    i have a restaurant and pay 761 for my local council (yearly) to take all my waste away,we have 3 separate wheelie bins ,a small one for food waste (which the council compost and sell) a re-cycle bin for glass,cardboard etc(which the council then sell on) and one bin for when i am lazy and CGAF which goes to landfill and seagull stomachs,do not know how much the council make back buut it runs into the low millions.must pay for their big cars and long lunches then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ub2yoo View Post
    Well, when we checked why this is done like this, no one seemed to know the next step of the recycle procedure outside the office ... not even our office admin.
    (I also have the feeling no one is really bothered too much to investigate properly)

    There are occasional recycle bins in Dubai, only at very few spots, you really have to search for them. The city is lacking behind big time when it comes to going green.

    But even then ... they guy keeps setting up separate bins and put them into one garbage bag at the end every time.
    I tried to explain several times, but they don't understand. We're now at the 3rd kitchen guy in a row who inherits that procedure from the previous one, and just
    carries out the task as instructed, whether it makes sense or not.
    Sounds like token recycling.

    In Perth they had three different garbage trucks to collect the different colour-coded bins.

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