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    amazing book

    For those who have some time on kill I can strongly recommend this amazing book. Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. It's a massive brick with almost 1300 pages, but it's well worth reading.
    Have a look at:
    www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged
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    I'd venture to say that most of us have already read it. At the time, it produced something like an awakening for my mind, but I've since grown to take what's useful to me and discard what isnt... not so hard edged as I once was.

    For most Ayn Rand novies, I'd suggest starting out on the much more simple The Fountainhead, then if you can pick up what's puttin down, move up to Atlas Shrugged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarProfiteer View Post
    I'd venture to say that most of us have already read it. At the time, it produced something like an awakening for my mind, but I've since grown to take what's useful to me and discard what isnt... not so hard edged as I once was.

    For most Ayn Rand novies, I'd suggest starting out on the much more simple The Fountainhead, then if you can pick up what's puttin down, move up to Atlas Shrugged.
    For whatever reason I didn't get around to this book until a couple of years ago. All the hype, all the 'top 10 of all time' stuff stuff pushed me through the what seemed like an lifetime of reading it.

    Finally....slampay shrugged.
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    I've been reading a lot in my life, but just got this from MajorTom. Funny, as I haven't even heard of it before and it was spot on for a lot of my values in life.
    It was a bit repetitive sometimes, but I truly enjoyed it. The way it described the "freebies" in society and the "I'want", "it's not up to me", "it's not my fault" culture is spot on even today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geir View Post
    The way it described the "freebies" in society and the "I'want", "it's not up to me", "it's not my fault" culture is spot on even today.
    Yeah, this is indeed the scary part... that it was written 55 friggin years ago and yet it is still spot on today...
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    Geir didnt you recognise the characters on this Forum in the book .... ?

    Capitalist utopia - post democracy city state framework for governance? - well can dream cant I? :P
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    Yeah, it's been called the bible of capitalism 5555 It's not exactly a Red-shirt book
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    Quote Originally Posted by geir View Post
    For those who have some time on kill I can strongly recommend this amazing book. Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. It's a massive brick with almost 1300 pages, but it's well worth reading.
    Have a look at:
    Atlas Shrugged - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Must get it. I've heard of fountainhead but haven't read that either.

    Cheers!

    edit: Just got it from P.bay in about 20 secs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarProfiteer View Post
    I'd venture to say that most of us have already read it. At the time, it produced something like an awakening for my mind, but I've since grown to take what's useful to me and discard what isnt... not so hard edged as I once was.

    For most Ayn Rand novies, I'd suggest starting out on the much more simple The Fountainhead, then if you can pick up what's puttin down, move up to Atlas Shrugged.
    I read The Fountainhead when I was 19 and really enjoyed it. Guess it's time to move up...

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    Those loopy tea party fruitcakes even prefer this to the bible!




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    Quote Originally Posted by kris-one View Post
    Those loopy tea party fruitcakes even prefer this to the bible!
    "I just want to live, it wasn't my fault, Give me!!!, you are the smart ones, solve the problem, make my existence"..... I loved it :-)
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    Just think....if she was alive today she could have her own show on FOX....555

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelsonone View Post
    Just think....if she was alive today she could have her own show on FOX....555
    Rand was a rational thinker though, and naturally an athiest. Not sure if she would mix with that lot if she was alive today.
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    Gotta agree with Bacon on that one... pretty sure she would shun the modern day religious (far) right in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PadMC View Post

    edit: Just got it from P.bay in about 20 secs.
    Love the Irony. 555

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    ^ I dunno, a problem solver??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    Rand was a rational thinker though, and naturally an athiest. Not sure if she would mix with that lot if she was alive today.
    Quote Originally Posted by WarProfiteer View Post
    Gotta agree with Bacon on that one... pretty sure she would shun the modern day religious (far) right in the US.
    plenty of atheists on FOX including the owner...she is the "darling" of so many of those right wing nutters like Limbaugh et al....I'm sure her "cult of the self" would find her diametrically opposed to Obama and right at home with FOX's pro capitalism/anti socialism mantra...FOX is defined as the get Obama channel after all

    It really does bemuse me that a couple of poorly written laughingly melodramatic novels still hold so much sway with the right wing loons

    Good piece here....

    Ayn Rand and the Invincible Cult of Selfishness on the American Right | New Republic

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    I think it's more like an eyeopener, make people realize that the world need the elite/smart people to funktion. I dislike the socialist government in Norway that don't let people make money. Taxation over the roof of the rich is not necessary the way to go....They are the ones that create jobs and keeps the wheels spinning.
    I left Norway because of the system, I had 12 people working for me, I created income for families, took people off the street etc............But for what?? All the money I made went to taxes, almost 70% of my "3 times a normal salary" went to the government. I didn't need that, so I left.....left my poor staff to live on social welfare. It's no point for me to be running a company if it's nothing inn it for ME!! 5555
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    Not sure if I think Rand would really be so cozy with what passes as the "right" today. I think it was John Stewart who said something along the lines of "everything has shifted... what used to be the center is now left and what used to be the moderate right is the center and what used to be the far right nutjobs are pretty much middle of the pack 'right' these days".

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    ^ well I'd agree with the observation of a paradigm shift to the right in conservative US politics Kev...but not sure you and I would ever agree with where Rand would sit in the spectrum...for me she'd be out there on the looney right and is up there with Palin as their poster girl

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