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    An open Cuba for American.

    If congress doesn't step on its big dick..this happens. The possibilities on so many levels are just crazy.

    It's a big deal.

    The U.S. Travel Industry*Can't Wait To Take You To Cuba - Businessweek
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    Lots of questions, not different than Thailand. Can I buy a property? Visa's? Hot Cuban chicks??

    Lots of money to be made here. Lots of fun also....speaking Spanish is deffo a plus!! 555
    A woman won The Nobel Peace Prize? Must have been a pretty good sandwich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slampay View Post
    .speaking Spanish is deffo a plus!! 555
    Mi aerodeslizador es completo de anguilas.

    Seriously, Castro's dead, Communism is practically dead. The demise of the US embargo of Cuba is well past time.

    Plus if you're a Cuban with a mint condition 50's car, there's a fortune to be made selling that bad boy to collectors.
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    It's a political football which is why it hasn't happened yet. He who coddles up to Cuba loses the FL vote. Just ask Manbearpig.

    My thoughts...if we do business with China, no reason not to do business with Cuba. Selfishly, it will suck for me buying my Cuban cigars. Cost will go thru the roof and QC will take a nosedive.

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    Do you think the average American would still go to Cuba?

    I don't .....which is good
    Keep them away but improve the food at hotels(which I heard can be awful) and I am in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc26 View Post
    Do you think the average American would still go to Cuba?

    I don't .....which is good
    Keep them away but improve the food at hotels(which I heard can be awful) and I am in!
    Yeah I think they would. Same sort of folks who vacation in the Caribbean and in Mexico.

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    Cuba has the potential to become one of the biggest tourist destinations in the world when opened up but I have a horrible feeling it will be another Carribean disaster even when the regime falls. We can only hope for a Vietnamese type transition.

    There seems to be just no work ethic amongst the population. After 54 years of "La Revolucion" the only industry I saw was painting murals and hoardings. Many of the industrious Cubans high tailed it to the USA and I think the 3 generations maturing under the Castro regime have lost the drive to work. Nice enough people but no comprehension of work.

    Just my observation as a short time visitor but I was horribly disappointed. The architecture is great, the beaches fantastic and all the food is grown organically as they have no access to fertiliser and it tastes like crap, but that can be fixed.
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    I might go to Cuba to check out the Scuba diving. I've heard good things. Most likely I'll bring a bottle of Havana Club rum back the next time I go cave diving in Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroTiger View Post
    I might go to Cuba to check out the Scuba diving. I've heard good things. Most likely I'll bring a bottle of Havana Club rum back the next time I go cave diving in Mexico.
    I've brought back Havana Club after each of my overseas trips and never had a problem with customs. Weird. They look right at the bottle and wave me thru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLandHim View Post
    Cuba has the potential to become one of the biggest tourist destinations in the world when opened up but I have a horrible feeling it will be another Carribean disaster even when the regime falls. We can only hope for a Vietnamese type transition.

    There seems to be just no work ethic amongst the population. After 54 years of "La Revolucion" the only industry I saw was painting murals and hoardings. Many of the industrious Cubans high tailed it to the USA and I think the 3 generations maturing under the Castro regime have lost the drive to work. Nice enough people but no comprehension of work.

    Just my observation as a short time visitor but I was horribly disappointed. The architecture is great, the beaches fantastic and all the food is grown organically as they have no access to fertiliser and it tastes like crap, but that can be fixed.
    Unfortunately, a lot of what you say is true. Basically, being communist-socialist, there is very little incentive for hard work and 'to get ahead'.
    Many of those with drive, education, and strong work ethic tried to flee to the US in the early 60's. Many came to Las Vegas, after a short stay in Florida, to work in the gaming industry.
    I worked with many Cubans in the early 70's when I first started in the business. For a few years I worked with a guy that was in the Bay of Pigs invasion and spent time in a Cuban jail before being released.
    As a group, I like them a lot.

    One thing that all these people agreed on completely is that they hated Castro. and communism.



    By the way, Cuban sandwiches are great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnlawyer View Post
    I've brought back Havana Club after each of my overseas trips and never had a problem with customs. Weird. They look right at the bottle and wave me thru.
    Customs has not really given people a hard time about Cuba for the last 5 years or so

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    You could see them building casinos again..just like it was before the fall..Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano built that place up back in the day and it drew

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    The main industry - slogan painting

    I was attracting attention from a few people because I took this photo

    Some stunning architecture

    The decayed opulence of The Hotel Nacionale contrasted with gray soviet life outside
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    ManBearPig was ruined in this thread, imo... ruined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc26 View Post
    Customs has not really given people a hard time about Cuba for the last 5 years or so
    Oh they do with cigars. Big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarProfiteer View Post
    ManBearPig was ruined in this thread, imo... ruined.
    Just out of pure curiosity, what does that cultural reference have to do with Cuba? I believe I’m very well aware of the common usage of the term --- and South Park is halllllarious --- but really wrecking my brain on this one.

    On the topic of the thread there’s only one word. Finally...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundancekid View Post
    On the topic of the thread there’s only one word. Finally...
    I doubt it's going to happen.

    The Republicans control congress now and I think they're practising "Oppositionism" (basically do whatever you can to block the current the government) which that the current and previous oppositions practised in Australia. I think the Democrats are doing this just to spite them by giving them things to block that don't cost the Dems anything (FL is considered to be Republican territory).

    It would be nice if it happened. Even just relaxing the restrictions from the US side will bring social changes. However I think the general malaise Bill spoke of it more an effect of Caribbean nations rather than communism. Even the capitalist nations seem to be in a permanent siesta compared to mainland South American nations. Ironically I think its the effect of tourism, having that as a primary industry produces too much easy money when things are good that there's no incentive for labour based industries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundancekid View Post
    On the topic of the thread there’s only one word. Finally...
    I am not so sure. I mean, Cuba is housing the most notorious prison camp in the world - well known for it's mistreatment of prisoners. People have been locked up there for years and years without due process. Even the ones that clearly are innocent has not much hope of ever being released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundancekid View Post
    Just out of pure curiosity, what does that cultural reference have to do with Cuba? I believe I’m very well aware of the common usage of the term --- and South Park is halllllarious --- but really wrecking my brain on this one.

    On the topic of the thread there’s only one word. Finally...
    I used the reference and was referring to Spotted Al Gore. The whole Elian Gonzales thing pissed off the US Cuban population and cost Gore votes in FL. It's my contention that the FL vote is a big reason nothing has happened with Cuba heretofore.

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