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    Bahrain Grand Prix !

    Another year , another money is more important than human rights "sports event" !

    I find it strange that people seem to feel that compared to other "Arab Spring" countries Bahrain is somehow different , arrests and human rights abuses are still happening there but lets just pretend everything is OK and that F1 isn't really about making money !

    Bernie Ecclestone is quoted by AFP as saying :
    Ecclestone told the AFP news agency: "There's no reason why [the race] shouldn't be [a success]."
    Asked about the demonstrations, he said: "What's happened? They're demonstrating now? I didn't know that. There's nobody demonstrating."
    But when a news channel attempts to report the truth they are kicked out of the country !

    ITV News asked to leave Bahrain ahead of Grand Prix

    An ITV News crew has been asked to leave Bahrain by the country's authorities as they reported on the violent clashes taking place in the build-up to the Grand Prix.

    The team of five, including ITV News special correspondent Rageh Omaar, were filming in the Gulf nation ahead of Sunday's Formula One race where they were yesterday held and questioned at a police station before being released.

    The group, who had the necessary visas permitting them to work there, were then again questioned and taken to a police station today, before being told they must leave the country.

    Maybe next year they will have a Saudi Grand Prix........ with women drivers !

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    ^ I'm afraid it's always been about the $$ with Bernie Ecclestone. I guess all his billions keeps him cosseted away from nasty human rights issues.

    Maybe next year they will have a Saudi Grand Prix........ with women drivers !
    If he thought there was money in it, he'd try and make it happen.
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    Yea, you can see he is moving away from Europe, where the money is. I really do not like the new circuits. I rather F#1 keep to the traditional circuits instead of the boring flat/street circuits. Shanghai is boring if you ask me, South Korea is worse. India? Erm....Singapore is ok for the so called "Night Race" , but please stick to Europe.

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    ^ Still plenty of boring circuits in Europe tho' 555. Hungary and Valencia come immediately to mind. Funny that although the Middle East is awash with money, the tracks at Bahrain, Abu Dhabi and Moto GP in Doha are all boring tracks for the spectator. Only one street circuit works for me, Monaco, and that is only because of tradition because its rare to see a great race happen there. Singapore?............beautiful backdrop, but no great close racing IMHO.

    Going back to money, Turkey was taken off the calendar because it didn't generate so much income, but the drivers loved the circuit?? You can see who controls where the racing happens. Hopefully it doesn't happen to India which the drivers love to race at.
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    Oo yea Valencia. That is really boring. I play the F#1 2012 game on PC, with a steering wheel. Nice game if you like the sport.

    I think Russia is coming up on the calender soon also. Cape Town, SA was brought up also.

    How about the France GP? Magny Cours?

    Honestly, i find Sepang boring also. Needs some renovation to the track.

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    Yes I heard Bernie is talking about a Russian GP. SA used to have a GP at Kyalami (sp) but that finished years ago. Not sure why Magny Cours was stopped, along with the Dutch and Austrian races.

    Funny, I like Sepang, but only for MotoGP 555.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dawsey View Post
    Yes I heard Bernie is talking about a Russian GP. SA used to have a GP at Kyalami (sp) but that finished years ago. Not sure why Magny Cours was stopped, along with the Dutch and Austrian races.

    Funny, I like Sepang, but only for MotoGP 555.
    I went to Sepang for the 1st race, got a free ticket grandstand. I did not like it, due to traffic and expensive food and beer. So rather watch on tv, but still i do not like it. The layout is boring and after so many years still the same.

    Singapore has the wow factor for wannabes, you can see it from the many high rise hotels and the casino is a beautifull backdrop, but that's it. Also long and boring, how many laps? I forgot. Imagine paying for 300 baht for a bottle of beer during the event, ouch !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawsey View Post
    Going back to money

    You can see who controls where the racing happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus View Post

    I think Russia is coming up on the calender soon also. Cape Town, SA was brought up also.
    Both Russia and S.A were discussed before , here is an article from 2011 :

    Formula One will return to South Africa by 2013, according to Bernie Ecclestone, the president and CEO of Formula One Management.

    A South African Grand Prix would be the first since 1993, when Alain Prost secured victory at Kyalami. It would mark another step in the sport's global expansion, with venues such as China, Abu Dhabi, India and Singapore either returning to the calendar or appearing for the first time in recent years.


    A Grand Prix in Sochi is also expected from 2014, the year that the Russian city hosts the Olympic Winter Games, while Bahrain is also expected to return to the schedule following the cancellation of the race this year.

    The USA, though, is proving slightly more challenging for Ecclestone and his team, despite races planned for both Texas and New Jersey. 'Formula One will not be big in America. But Formula One will be in Russia for 2014, and in South Africa by 2013 even,' Ecclestone told Al Jazeera English.
    He added: 'The US has been slow to get F1 because they want to see a profit before they start.'
    Love that last line ! Someone else wants to get their hands on the cash before Bernie pockets it all !

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    I suppose Bernie took too much cash from Indianapolis where the crowds were hardly huge.
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    Think it's time for Bernie to quietly head off to a retirement village !

    Bernie Ecclestone calls Bahrain government "stupid" to host GP

    "The government here were stupid, in a lot of ways, to put this race on," he said.

    "It is a platform for people to use protesting.

    "I think it's good because I don't think it's for us to decide the politics...good or bad. We're here to...it's a good circuit, it's a good race and we think everybody's happy so we're here. "
    If everybody's happy ............ why are they protesting ?

    Another "gem" later in the article :

    "Human rights are that the people that live in a country abide by the laws of that country."

    "So it's a case of whatever the laws are in a country. People need to respect them, all of us [visiting], and the people that live here."
    By that reasoning the S.A Grand Prix should never have been pulled !

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22231448

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    If you've been to Bahrain there isn't much else to recommend other than the Annual F1 GP.
    I wouldn't really call The King stupid (BE) for using it to put his country in the international spotlight every so often.
    Oil politics is the only other thing that this backwater runs on, and it if it wasn't for the Annual GP, it would have faded from the world's consciousness along with all its downtrodden working classes, soon after all the long haul international flights stopped using it as a convenient fuel stop. A Saudi GP with women drivers? i'd like to see that..555

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    Quote Originally Posted by Changone View Post
    Oil politics is the only other thing that this backwater runs on, and it if it wasn't for the Annual GP, it would have faded from the world's consciousness along with all its downtrodden working classes, soon after all the long haul international flights stopped using it as a convenient fuel stop.
    If it wasn't for the fact that it is home to the U.S Fifth Fleet and "supported" by it's neighbour over the "King Fahd Causeway" it's "downtrodden working classes" would have been given the moral/financial/military aid that the other 'Arab Spring' countries received.

    Instead , it's let pretend nothing's wrong ........ and race cars around an expensive white elephant (or should that be camel ?) in the miiddle of the desert.

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    Thread should be called politics in f1, or something about Bernie..

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