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    Thai Airways to drop U.S. route...

    I used to fly the hell out of them, when they had the nonstop flight from LAX to BKK. Quickly became a Gold Member of their Royal Orchid program, with thousands of airmiles etc.

    They dropped that nonstop flight several years ago, and began some connecting flight out of Narita.

    For the last year or more, they've only offered a connection in ICN (Seoul), with a 9 or 11 hour layover between connection flights! (?)

    And they wonder why they're not competitive?

    Maybe this is just a preemptive strike before they're black-balled by the FAA and ICAO. If they drop the route (as I understand it now), they will have to resolve the low ICAO rating, before they can resume service to the U.S.





    Thai Airways to suspend only US route - The Nation


    Thai Airways to suspend only US route


    July 27, 2015 3:51 pm

    Bangkok (dpa) - Thailand's national airline will suspend its only route to the United States in order to combat growing losses, local media reported Monday.

    Four weekly flights to Los Angeles from Bangkok will be suspended starting October 25, according to business news website Bangkok Dhurakit.

    The cutbacks are part of company president Jarumporn Chotikasathein’s attempts to cut losses, which reached 440 million dollars last year.

    Jarumporn told local media the company plans to increase some flights to Europe, which it sees as more profitable.
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    Does look pre-emptive doesn't it?

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    Funny the first thing I thought of was "oh they're cutting the US ties now so that when the FAA blacklist them they can say they're not even flying to the US anymore".

    I doubt it really is that, from what I heard its more likely that the route wasn't attractive enough - other carriers were much much cheaper, even if those are multi-stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeedHoliday View Post
    Funny the first thing I thought of was "oh they're cutting the US ties now so that when the FAA blacklist them they can say they're not even flying to the US anymore".

    I doubt it really is that, from what I heard its more likely that the route wasn't attractive enough - other carriers were much much cheaper, even if those are multi-stop.
    Yeah, they've actually been "withdrawing" from the service to U.S. for the past 4 or 5 years, by reducing the number of flights etc.

    No big loss for the the yank's though, as I don't know anyone here who uses them anymore. The only attractive thing they ever offered, was the nonstop service from LAX and JFK. With those gone, they're on level field with every other carrier, with a stop somewhere in the Orient.

    And their service standard really isn't up to compete with the others...IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    The only attractive thing they ever offered, was the nonstop service from LAX and JFK.
    Well, that plus the super-cute chicks they sometimes have working the flight surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve@thaib View Post
    Well, that plus the super-cute chicks they sometimes have working the flight surely?
    Thai super-cute? The youngest I have seen on a flight was cerainly more than 40 and ugly as hell. You confound with Singapore Airlines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve@thaib View Post
    Well, that plus the super-cute chicks they sometimes have working the flight surely?
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain View Post
    Thai super-cute? The youngest I have seen on a flight was cerainly more than 40 and ugly as hell. You confound with Singapore Airlines.
    Like I said "The only attractive thing was their nonstop service". 555

    The Captain is right, the only time you see any youngish gals on Thai, are on some of the least desirable domestic routes. (low seniority)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeedHoliday View Post
    Funny the first thing I thought of was "oh they're cutting the US ties now so that when the FAA blacklist them they can say they're not even flying to the US anymore".

    I doubt it really is that, from what I heard its more likely that the route wasn't attractive enough - other carriers were much much cheaper, even if those are multi-stop.
    They just didn't have the customers going to Thailand from US to compete
    All the Asian airlines that fly from North America to more popular places like Tokyo, Hong Kong, Seoul, Taipei have segments that fly onto BKK

    We just booked our cheapest flight ever.......815usd on Eva Air through Taipei

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    I've been taking Korean Air or Asiana from Seattle to Bangkok or Phuket since 2009. Much less expensive than Thai Airways, and the flight attendants are usually pretty cute as well, especially on Korean. There's a short stop in Incheon on the way over and a 9 hour layover on the way back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroTiger View Post
    I've been taking Korean Air or Asiana from Seattle to Bangkok or Phuket since 2009. Much less expensive than Thai Airways, and the flight attendants are usually pretty cute as well, especially on Korean. There's a short stop in Incheon on the way over and a 9 hour layover on the way back.
    We took Korean back from BKK with my MIL and stepson
    They were fantastic.
    Food was pretty good and the hostesses were very attentive.
    My MIL and stepson were seated in front of me and they went out of their way to make sure they understood what they were saying

    What do you do for 9 hours?

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    There are slip hopes that NS US to BKK will be a reality again in a few years.
    Delta has announced that it will deemphasize NRT and expand direct routes to several Asian cities from SEA once the 25 A350's on order enters service.

    MNL, SIN and BKK makes a lot of sense.
    For BKK Delta has allocated one 330 for NRT-BKK that "sleeps" eight hours a day in BKK.
    The same for Singapore, one aircraft for one medium route..
    If flying from SEA-BKK-SIN-SEA then can be done with 1.5 aircraft, plus as much as one flight can be reduced from US to NRT (make that PDX).
    In other words 3 ships can be reduced to 1.5, granted with some overall reduction in capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc26 View Post
    We took Korean back from BKK with my MIL and stepson
    They were fantastic.
    Food was pretty good and the hostesses were very attentive.
    My MIL and stepson were seated in front of me and they went out of their way to make sure they understood what they were saying

    What do you do for 9 hours?
    That 9 hour layover is on the way BACK.....so you find a flat place and sleep.55
    A woman won The Nobel Peace Prize? Must have been a pretty good sandwich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDK View Post
    NS US BKK NRT SEA A350's MNL SIN BKK BKK 330 NRT-BKK BKK SEA-BKK-SIN-SEA US NRT PDX
    Say again ...

    So, you speak Danish, English, and Abbreviations - how about Latin?
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    Thai Airways to drop U.S. route...

    Quote Originally Posted by slampay View Post
    That 9 hour layover is on the way BACK.....so you find a flat place and sleep.55
    Yep, I check into the transit lounge and get a nice buffet breakfast and a place to crash for 6 hours. Costs $20, so is a no-brainer. I use the time to catch up on email and get re-synced to my home time zone. ICN is one of the nicer airports for a layover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatdane View Post
    Say again ...

    So, you speak Danish, English, and Abbreviations - how about Latin?
    I never posted what you inserted in quoting my post.
    PS. Latin was mandatory in the school I went to, but I did not do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDK View Post
    I never posted what you inserted in quoting my post.
    PS. Latin was mandatory in the school I went to, but I did not do well.
    Oh yes, you did. I only removed the unimportant stuff.

    I never had Latin, I was tired of school, so I never went to gymnasium (High School). I just received an invitation from my old school for a reunion - graduation was 40 years ago. I'm getting old

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    Can anyone think of a major national carrier that doesnt fly to the usa ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivinLOS View Post
    Can anyone think of a major national carrier that doesnt fly to the usa ??
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Koryo_destinations

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    look like I didn't see a important word in you question

    major

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivinLOS View Post
    Can anyone think of a major national carrier that doesnt fly to the usa ??

    Good question.

    There are a few "national's" that don't, like Koryo mentioned above, Vietnam Airlines, and a few more.

    (It's a good guess that there are many "nationals" that don't have permission from the U.S., for safety standard reasons...same as EU)

    It's quite strange though, how a national flag carrier (THAI) with a long history of service to the U.S....simply "pulls out"?
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