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    More than just foreigners robbed...

    Last night, my gal's 21 year old daughter was robbed after withdrawing some cash from an ATM.

    She's in her fourth year of studies at a private University in Khorat, and about a two hour drive from her home village.

    There she was, pulling out some money (6,000 baht) to pay for rent an utilities, when some dirtbag Thai guy pulls up on a motorbike. He put a knife to her neck and demanded the money, ATM card, her ID card, and what other money she had in her bag! He then pushed her down to the ground (all 40kg of her) and sped off on his motorbike.

    I swear....if I'd have only been there?

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    Yeah I am hearing things are very tight in the lower to middle class where crime will be more likely.. Its strange because theres a very visible high spending demographic, and that segment is visibly using the services that cater to them (yuppie / showing hi-so crowd) the 300b beers and the posh spots seem to be doing rampant trade. But talk to anything less than the expensive crowd and it seems to be suffering as hard as I have seen. Seems very strange to me that its almost easier to cater to expensive tastes than budget ones, I find that hard to rationalize, the pain isnt being felt equally through the system.

    I was in bangkok and went to a specialist 4x4 place for new truck wheel and tire package.. I saw he was doing a mega promo on facebook so made a day out of a trip down south to get it done. It was the day before NY and the place was bedlam busy, chinese Thai owner great guy and my install needed adapters, spacers, some cutting so took a while, we talked a lot.. He said its the worst year hes been in business and hes closing one side of his shop (he has 3) and will try selling big bike tires and accessories (we had talked about bikes) I pointed out how mad busy he was and his lament was only because new year sale, I am dumping my year end stock at nothing margins, everyone knows its too cheap, so they all come only when they can take advantage of near whole sale price. Seemed odd to be in a busy shop, with the owner stressed and unhappy with business..

    I havent been over to issan this year, and I would need to go solo to be able to chat to the girls I know over there to get a more real local gauge, but the rice issues this year cannot be holding that economy up at the growth rates they expect.

    Hua Hin bars soi 80 seemed about normal, but that was day after NY so hard to know whats normal..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivinLOS View Post
    Yeah I am hearing things are very tight in the lower to middle class where crime will be more likely.. Its strange because theres a very visible high spending demographic, and that segment is visibly using the services that cater to them (yuppie / showing hi-so crowd) the 300b beers and the posh spots seem to be doing rampant trade. But talk to anything less than the expensive crowd and it seems to be suffering as hard as I have seen. Seems very strange to me that its almost easier to cater to expensive tastes than budget ones, I find that hard to rationalize, the pain isnt being felt equally through the system.

    I was in bangkok and went to a specialist 4x4 place for new truck wheel and tire package.. I saw he was doing a mega promo on facebook so made a day out of a trip down south to get it done. It was the day before NY and the place was bedlam busy, chinese Thai owner great guy and my install needed adapters, spacers, some cutting so took a while, we talked a lot.. He said its the worst year hes been in business and hes closing one side of his shop (he has 3) and will try selling big bike tires and accessories (we had talked about bikes) I pointed out how mad busy he was and his lament was only because new year sale, I am dumping my year end stock at nothing margins, everyone knows its too cheap, so they all come only when they can take advantage of near whole sale price. Seemed odd to be in a busy shop, with the owner stressed and unhappy with business..

    I havent been over to issan this year, and I would need to go solo to be able to chat to the girls I know over there to get a more real local gauge, but the rice issues this year cannot be holding that economy up at the growth rates they expect.

    Hua Hin bars soi 80 seemed about normal, but that was day after NY so hard to know whats normal..
    1st off, it just be scary as hell for that young girl to be in that situation......Could just as easy of got killed.
    Must have been shaken up badly.
    The one good thing is it may have now made her extra careful when dealing with cash anywhere.


    As for economy.....
    I don't see it the same as Sefton does, at least in Samut Prakan. The place is absolute choxkers every place we go and what is definitely the middle of the road type people and places.

    We went looking at townhouses in the high 3-4mil range and almost the whole developments sold out.
    That's not small money compared to wages....

    Then Ao's business. She does signage for all sorts of businesses and they pay a pretty decent sum to the graphic design business, who them pays her pretty decent.

    Hell, my last night in Thailand she dumped me at BangNa BTS because she had 5-6 jobs waiting for her to finish her vacation with me and couldn't hold them off anymore.

    Her brother's still making a decent wage for elementary school dropouts
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    We just saw on tv last night a wonderful young Thai man in the exact same situation. His grieving family said he was studying to become a pilot. CCTV showed him fighting back bravely but he was stabbed in the neck and died on the spot. The assailant was seen on tv. He was trying to steal an iPhone. It's more about greed than need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc26 View Post
    As for economy.....
    I don't see it the same as Sefton does, at least in Samut Prakan. The place is absolute choxkers every place we go and what is definitely the middle of the road type people and places.

    We went looking at townhouses in the high 3-4mil range and almost the whole developments sold out.
    That's not small money compared to wages....
    Will say outside Samut Songkhram.. The amphawa canal markets, were busy as fuck over new year.. But I am reluctant to gauge it because its new year, and being so close to bangkok at a holiday, and so much else..

    Hard to know about the rural / urban divide.. Chiang Mai a bit unusual as it has both, a locals / poor side to it and a high flying celebs up from bangkok side to it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc26 View Post
    1st off, it just be scary as hell for that young girl to be in that situation......Could just as easy of got killed.
    Must have been shaken up badly.
    The one good thing is it may have now made her extra careful when dealing with cash anywhere.
    And yeah sorry.. rambling mind not addressing the more important side.. Must have sucked as life has a low value..

    Mates may remember Jimmy, his ex's sister ended up dead (robbed and raped) in a ricefield, no efforts from the thin brown line..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    I swear....if I'd have only been there?



    You both may well no longer be with us, if you were there.

    Bastards like them take no prisoners (as I'm sure you don't) and have no thought for life.

    Be satisfied knowing she's physically OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Changone View Post
    We just saw on tv last night a wonderful young Thai man in the exact same situation. His grieving family said he was studying to become a pilot. CCTV showed him fighting back bravely but he was stabbed in the neck and died on the spot. The assailant was seen on tv. He was trying to steal an iPhone. It's more about greed than need.
    My wife got hit and run by a car about 8 years ago in Samut Prakan.
    She was unconscious and someone took her to hospital.
    Unfortunately that someone, or someone else......Took all her belongings while she was passed out on the street

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc26 View Post
    Unfortunately that someone, or someone else......Took all her belongings while she was passed out on the street
    Standard ambulance fee.. Widely understood.

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    Phayam is a small but fast growing island, and it's packed with Thai tourists every weekend and for holidays. It's people that are paying from 2k to 7k a night, so it's still loads of middle class or rich Thais that don't seem to struggle with the economy.
    A blowjob is better than no job!!

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    ^^ sort of my point.. The yuppie side of Thailand is very visibly spending money..

    The 300b beer bars in town are crowded, the 3 big leos for 170b bars, the normal thai places are really struggling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by geir View Post
    so it's still loads of middle class or rich Thais that don't seem to struggle with the economy.
    Honda idles Thai auto capacity amid weak sales- Nikkei Asian Review

    Toyota predicts Thai car sales to be low

    As mentioned, theres a small well off outlier (urban bangkok ??), who seem to be beating the trend, but the trend is in every set of economic data collected and published, very down.

    Some of the end of 2016 economic reports were as grim as they have been since the floods.

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