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    Fears of major clash if rivals face off at House

    Just in time to effect high season bookings.. Its marching season !!!

    Fears of major clash if rivals face off at House - The Nation

    CONTROVERSIAL AMNESTY BILL
    Fears of major clash if rivals face off at House
    The Nation

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    A crowd-control police unit is stationed at Makkhawan Rangsan Bridge on Ratchadamnoen Avenue to guard Government House from possible intrusion by anti-government protesters.

    Supporters of both sides massing, as Democrats endorse march to Parliament

    BANGKOK: -- A political confrontation is looming between pro- and anti-government mobs, with Democrat Party MPs having decided yesterday to lead a group of supporters today to Parliament House, which is protected by a huge police force and controls imposed under the Internal Security Act (ISA).

    The opposition's stance of combining street protests with its legislative efforts became clearer when Phatthalung MP Niphit Intharasombat said that future Democrat rallies against the Pheu Thai-led government's push for an amnesty bill might be held jointly at Lumpini Park. There is now a large rally at this site by an anti-Thaksin Shinawatra movement.

    Several pro-government red-shirt groups are travelling to the capital to show support for the government and the bill, which would seek pardons for many pro-Thaksin protesters indicted for violence and crimes committed during the riots in Bangkok three years ago.

    Supporters of the so-called People's Army gathering in the provinces are expected to arrive in Bangkok today, when the bill is submitted to Parliament for its first reading.

    The People's Army, which has the tag "To Overthrow the Thaksin Regime", said yesterday that it would heighten the scale of its rally by 9am today. The rally leader, retired Admiral Chai Suwannapharb, said all tactics and moves of organisers needed to remain secret, but people keen to know what the protest plans would be were welcome to join the rally.

    Police spokesman Maj-General Piya Uthayo said there would be no further estimates on the number of anti-government protesters today, but he said an intelligence report noted that both sides were gathering a mass of supporters. An extra deployment would be made available - some six more units in total - to cope with the increasing number of people in each group, he said.

    Speaking onstage at the anti-Thaksin People's Army rally on Monday night, Niphit announced: "I now call on brothers and sisters of the Democrat Party to gather here.

    "I also call on the brave to test the ISA, by converging outside Parliament House to give me support," the MP said. "If you cannot enter the [ISA-imposed] zone, give me a call. Parliament debates [scrutinising the bill] are open to the public, and the ISA does not prohibit a peaceful gathering in the [ISA-imposed] zone," he said.

    Democrat MP Satit Wongnongtaey, said all Democrat MPs would lead a group supporters to the Parliament at 9am, and would ask policemen guarding the Parliament whether the supporters could get in the compound. "This is a symbolic measure signifying the Democrats' fight [against the bill], both inside and outside the Parliament, as they would not violate the law," he added.

    At a party rally in Bangkok's Uruphong area on Monday, fellow Democrat MP Suthep Thuagsuban vowed to stage a rally around the clock to "show off the people's power" to the government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. He said all Democrat MPs would "continue the fight outside the Parliament" if any person attending this rally sustained a scratch from police action. That was because the location - a public space under an elevated expressway - is outside the ISA zone, declared over three districts in Bangkok where Government House and Parliament are located.

    Opposition whip and Democrat MP Jurin Laksanavisit said there would be no agreement made with the government on the duration of scrutiny or sessions of debate, as it would be useless to seek a time frame fixed by the government from 1pm to 11pm. He said a request would be made through the House Speaker and the PM for a live telecast of the House debate on the pardon bill.

    Meanwhile, a group of red shirts visited the Democrat headquarters on Setsiri Road yesterday to call for support for the pardon bill.


    -- The Nation 2013-08-07

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    Thailand's political showdown today
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    BANGKOK, Aug 7 – Thailand plunges into a further quandary today as the government moves head-on with a parliamentary debate on the highly-criticised amnesty bill as adamant protesters vow to fight against the legislation with no turning back.

    Bannawit Kengrian, a core leader of the People’s Army against Thaksin Regime (PATR), said contacts have been made with several allied networks to widen today’s rally which should see a turnout of at least 20,000 demonstrators.

    “There is no turning back. We will not disclose our strategy. We will upgrade the rally and make a multi-pronged movement. We have constantly contacted Democrat members at the other rally site (in the Urupong area),” said the retired navy officer.

    Admiral Bannawit said at least 20,000 tear gas protection masks have been prepared for protesters as it was believed that police would shoot tear gas canisters into the demonstrators.

    “We have assigned our people to infiltrate and observe many of the spots where we will ‘attack’. We will choose the right timing in making the move,” he said.

    The PATR has rallied at Lumpini Park since Sunday.

    A loudspeaker-equipped truck has been ready to lead the demonstrators from Lumpini today.

    The Centre of the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) has not objected to the PATR’s move from Lumpini Park but sternly warned its members against entering the three districts of Phra Nakhon, Pomprab Satrupai and Dusit – declared off-limits under the Internal Security Act. Government House and parliament are located in the off-limits zone.

    CAPO spokesman Piya Utayo said an additional 32 companies of police have been deployed in the three restricted districts with an emphasis on Parliament while coordination has been made with the three armed forces to seek their assistance in case of emergency.

    Checkpoints will be set up to search for weapons and entrances to Parliament will be sealed off while demonstrators will be strictly barred from disrupting the parliamentary debate, he said.

    Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra instructed authorities to ensure that lawmakers are able to enter Parliament to join the debate.

    “I just have one vote as an MP. In the House, decision belongs to the House speaker,” she said. “I will join the debate as it is my duty to do so.”

    Democrat executive Satit Wongnhongtaey said party MPs would jointly walk to Parliament House to attend today’s session and people would be urged to accompany them – a display of protest against the amnesty bill.

    Civilians who escort the Democrat MPs will seek the authorities’ permission to enter the off-limits area without violating the law, he said. (MCOT online news)


    -- TNA 2013-08-07

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    Interestingly.. Theres lots of rumor.. That Mr T is already back in the country.. operating a 'war room' to direct this stuff from a location in Koh Chang.

    I heard that from a couple of Thais, and its been online chatter and even printed in a Thai news source.. apparently a 'major VIP' flew on a private charter into Trat airport before being transferred down there.

    All crazy talk ???

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    For all the noise and bluster.. Headlines of 'thousands'.. And twitter images etc...

    It would appear that this is about 2000 people, with a few hundred pro government ones at lumpini.. Hardly the kind of rallies we have seen in the past.

    Thousands of protesters mass outside Thai parliament

    BANGKOK, August 7, 2013 (AFP) - Around 2,000 Thai opposition supporters converged near parliament Wednesday, according to an AFP reporter at the scene, to protest against a controversial amnesty bill for political violence in the divided nation.

    Hundreds of riot police carrying shields and batons barricaded the way to the parliament with concrete blocks and barbed wire, to prevent demonstrators reaching the building in the historic area of Bangkok.

    The government of prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra has been braced for the rally for several days, raising worries over the potential for fresh unrest in the politically-turbulent country as parliament gears up to debate an amnesty bill on Wednesday afternoon.

    Opposition Democrat lawmakers, including the former prime minister and current party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, led supporters to the barricades some 200 metres (yards) from the legislature gates in a tense stand-off with police over whether the rally would be let through.

    An AFP reporter at the scene saw three water cannon trucks and several large police vans behind the police lines.

    "Why does this government want a whitewash for those who have violated human rights?" Abhisit said to reporters as he marched.

    The Democrat protestors are targeting a government-backed bill, which proposes an amnesty for those involved in political violence since the military coup that toppled divisive former premier Thaksin Shinawatra nearly seven years ago.

    The bill would scrap charges against protesters involved in incidents from the September 2006 coup until May 2012 -- barring the leaders.

    But anti-government factions fear it will be manipulated by the ruling Peau Thai government to waive convictions against Thaksin.

    Thailand has been riven by political tensions since the overthrow of Thaksin, premier Yingluck's brother, who lives abroad but still draws loyalty among the kingdom's poor, rural working class.

    Mass demonstrations, often involving bloodshed, have become a recurrent feature of Thailand's febrile politics in recent years, with ultra-royalist nationalist "Yellow Shirts" and their pro-Thaksin "Red Shirt" foes both taking to the streets.

    An attempt to introduce an amnesty bill last year was aborted after Yellow Shirts and ultra-nationalists -- who support the opposition Democrat Party -- rallied outside the legislature.

    The Democrat protestors held an all-night rally a few kilometres from parliament.

    A separate anti-government rally by the self-styled Thai People's Army has also been ongoing since Sunday in a downtown park, drawing hundreds of mainly middle-aged people.


    -- ęCopyright AFP 2013-08-07 | AFP News Sponsor
    Published with written approval from AFP.

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    So after not being allowed into the ISA zone by police.. Democrat leaders tell the rally to disperse and go home..

    So much for that drama !!

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    ^^^
    Sorry about no blood in the streets.
    But that's what peaceful demonstrations do - go home when it's over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilbaz View Post
    ^^^
    Sorry about no blood in the streets.
    But that's what peaceful demonstrations do - go home when it's over.
    I am not sorry at all.. Its a relief considering its the amnesty bill being discussed.. The Army running the tanks out (its not a show of force, dont worry !!).. Etc etc

    Seems the Dems / Yellows / Pad / whatevers.. are not raising the kind of support the Reds / PT / Tackys lot do in similar circumstances..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivinLOS View Post
    I am not sorry at all.. Its a relief considering its the amnesty bill being discussed.. The Army running the tanks out (its not a show of force, dont worry !!).. Etc etc

    Seems the Dems / Yellows / Pad / whatevers.. are not raising the kind of support the Reds / PT / Tackys lot do in similar circumstances..
    Maybe not paying enough 500 bhts a day??
    Custard should be a colour...cos I could then paint over the mess I've just made!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
    Maybe not paying enough 500 bhts a day??
    Or, now min wage is 300, its not enough to get the richer yellows out there for the free food and party.

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