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    Loei Rd Trip

    I keep hopping about on Rd trips, and each time intend to document it a little, then get back and am so caught up in stuff I dont bother.. Just in the last month or two theres been, Chiang Dao, Pai, Nan, Koh Chang and Patts (multiple Patts now I think about it) Ban Chang, Multiple Udon trips, Bangkok, Hua Hin, Cha Am and a Kanchanaburi night.. A bike run up around Fang and Chiang Rai.. And this one last week.. Well I have another roadie starting in a couple of days so better get something brief up of this one too will get left.

    So the missus had seen some Thai TV travel show which included Phu Ruea mountain and dawn above the clouds.. I did try to explain that right now the weather is unusually (for this time of year) smoggy but she wasnt listening and hey any excuse for another roadie. I was also aware of Chiang Khan which I had been through multiple times but only recently became aware theres an 'old town' walking street on the banks of the mekhong one street over from the rather uninspiring main rd I thought was all there was.

    As the missus is on a long slow road of recovery from a badly broken ankle and surgery to sort that, this was a car trip not a bikie.. But I just love driving around too, the constant movement and action of driving soothes my ADHD by having constant stimulation of changing scenery etc.. And I love torturing the car I cant kill by booting it through road conditions it shouldnt have to handle at speeds that are highly inadvisable. It really is a tough old thing if only it was rear wheel drive..

    Set off on a highly suspect smoggy morning and first stop was the lookout on the Phrae / Uttaradit border @ 17.8336031,100.060689 google has this listed as Khao Plung wayside shelter but its your usual Thai stop with food stalls and strangely enough a 'medicinal lao khao' stall. Selling lao khao infused with herbs and wood bits allegedly for 'medicinal use'.. Nothing like a shot of high octane alcohol first thing in the morning to help your health.

    At this stage I had been fasting for about 3 days, and wanted to break it with something healthy.. Try getting something this good in your local motorway services back in Europe..










    Travelling around in Thailand finding great food is just so easy.

    Back in the car and the missus straight to sleep (a theme you will discover) and I decided to hop off the highway and go via the Sirikit Dam and 'the back way' into Loei, which involves heading up tiny kinda bad roads near the Laos border.

    The whole point of going this way, a way I have done multiple times on bikes, was for it to be 'the scenic route' for the missus.. Turns out we have very different tastes in a journey. Me I like just travelling through the Thai countryside, seeing the forests, rivers, hills etc. If she cant take a selfie in front of it, it doesnt count as having any appeal. I woke her up 2 or 3 times when we came near something that looked great, the wide flowing nan river just out of the sirikit damn, a high view in the jungle and her reaction was uniformly meh.. Yet drive past a cafe with a crappy, garishly painted, badly made, concrete tiger or something and its 'quick stop the car' out to take multiple photos in front if it for facebook. It really is total opposites on what makes the journey.

    The road that I took is pretty poor, and the one section I hadnt yet done (the 2195 along the river) I had been warned about, that guys on ADV bikes said it was awful and to be avoided.. But whats life without a little risk ?? Well they were right !!

    There were entire sections of unmade road just smooth gravel.. So there I am playing FWD WRC, just drifiting the golf over this gravel at pace on terrible roads when on one of the tarmac sections I hit a pothole that was like a lunar crater.. A god almighty bang, the missus waking up all in a panic and I was lucky not to prang the alloy or fuck the tire. Note to self, 100 - 120 kph on roads like this might just be a bit too much.. I did notice at this point my steering wheel was now shifted off at about a 30 degree angle and it all felt a bit 'off'.. But no point in checking, you cant fix anything in the boonies and nearly there now !! It was at least not making any grinding noises so would probably make it.

    Arrival to Chiang Khong and pulled into the first hotel with a car park. Remember as mentioned my missus has a broken leg, and this is a town with a walking street without cars so certain logistics was effecting my choices. The place we stopped was the

    Souksomboon hotel and it looked nice.. They claimed to only have one room left, the most expensive river view room at 1500b, but travelling with the missus wanted something nice anyway. Assured good working wifi and breakfasts included and figured what the hell, too easy to worry if it was a bit over charged. One big selling point was in the lobby of the hotel they had pushbikes for rent, which solved our walking issues pretty easily. I asked and was told 50b a day for a bike, easy.. Tried to get them to discount on the room, no chance, or throw in a free bike, again no.. While the room was decent, I was already getting a slightly unfriendly vibe from the staff here.

    Pic doesnt do the room any justice, really nice polished hardwoods, good size clean and bright.





    So we check in.. The wifi doesnt work.. I go down to ask to be told it does work.. Er no it doesnt.. They check and its not working.. They say they will sort it..

    Never mind lets just rent a bike and go out and explore.. 50b a day for these bikes with a second seat built on the back.. But now we have checked in its 50b 'per day' meaning 3 hours.. Thats not exactly per day.. So evening and morning with the bike is 100b.. OK fine just rent me a bike.. But now.. Oh you cant have one bike and ride 2 up (like every other couple is doing, like the bikes are custom made for) you have to have 2 bikes, remember my wife is walking with a stick and I am unsure of she even can ride.. The whole thing is pissing me off but if I spit the dummy and tell him to go get fucked now it only makes it worse as we need a way for my missus to get about.. So sure. 200b for 2 basic bikes that probably cost 2000b to buy.. Why do they always have to make such a simple thing feel like getting screwed.

    However on the upside the little walking street is a real pleasure.. Little food stalls, buskers, beautiful wooden houses, etc etc.. Really great, people super friendly, enjoying it loads.











    Wasnt especially hungry but of course would need to feed the missus, so randomly chose "Luam Prabang restaurant / homestay" place seemed to be run by an elderly very Chinese looking gentleman, and tables bussed by tiny tiny cute little Laotian looking girls, hair up in topknots etc.. Menu looked to have a few Laos type dishes (Laos style spring rolls etc) and the things my missus ordered were really a cut above the average even for good Thai restaurants. Definitely eat here if coming, sensational quality. Also had Hoegaarden and Erdinger on the menu, the old Chinese gent said they were the only place in town with import beers.







    We finished up here and were back to the room by 9:30 or 10 and while I did see one place that seemed more 'bar' than food based I get the idea this town shuts early. Back to the room and still no working wifi.







    What was surprising was the amount of people here.. This is a little village like town in the boonies and it was rammed, hotels fully booked on a Wed night.. Lots of wealthy looking asians, types I would guess were bangkok Thais (pale women in sundresses and straw hats.. Lots of high end camera gear) and I only saw 2 other farangs the whole time I was in town.
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    Next morning awake early.. Nice chill in the air.. But still no wifi !! After a bit of back and forth it seems the wifi was working on all access points, except the only one available to our room.

    We go down to check out breakfast.. Find out its offered on a pretty lean time window of 7 - 9.. This was 6:45 so just wait with a coffee.. Nope no coffee until 7.. OK..

    Then at 7 the request for a coffee is greeted with the idea of instant.. Really ?? I can see Laos from the window and your serving nescafe in a 1500b a night hotel ??

    OK lets just get some breakfast.. Bacon ?? Eggs ?? Buffet ?? Nope.. Fried rice or rice soup.. OK I dont want rice for breakfast, can you just please scramble a couple of eggs and a bit of toast.. Huff and puffs and tuts and rolled eyes.. They did then bring out some eggs, that were rolling in black dirty oil with some untoasted bread.. Just foul, wasnt going to touch it. The missus got some watery rice soup that she also said was crap. More than the fact that it was all crap, was the attitude that came with it, not a "sorry we dont have bacon" or "sorry we only have nescafe" the grumpy old bint was a real snotty cow about it.. Like I said tutting and huffing at everything, even when asked very nicely and politely with a smile.

    OK so lets the the hell out of here and find a cafe with real coffee and maybe some eggs.. We go out to the bikes we had to pay 2 days for, to find ones missing.. 10 mins to find anyone who has a clue and they say "ohh sorry must have rented that out already.. And we dont have any more small ones".. By this point I was well and truly over this place and its abysmal service and just wanted to get back out.. Said fine, just give me my money back then as I have paid for it, and suddenly they were able to find another small sized bike.

    Once out of the black cloud of the hotel however..Everyone else in the town was great.. Just up the road was a cafe run by this fella


    Who was super friendly and, as he kept pimping me caffeinated beverages for half an hour, my new bestie.. He also told my missus that the people in the hotel were cunts and no one liked them in the street (this was repeated in another joint just down the rd too) and he sat chatting to the missus about things locally, found a magazine of Loei attractions, said he could find rooms for bikers coming with secure parking (even down to 200b a night), and generally seemed a great contact. His english was limited but I think he understood more than he spoke, he said he could read english and contacts through facebook so I said I would post his contact info for riders who may head there.

    He told my old lady about a sight to see, and trying to get a clear idea where it was he said its 10ks along the river.. Waving his arm west, the way we just came.. I remember how awful the road was, and my now miss alingned steering wheel and am a bit dubious.. Later I look the attraction up and its 10ks east.. So while he may be a fount of local knowledge, he has bugger all sense of direction !!

    So first round of coffees in, we ride along the little street and people are calling out, last nights busker is at it again, everyone friendly.

    Rice on a stick ?? Dont mind if I do..

    We find a busy looking breakfast joint and once again, nescafe (WTF ?? I can see Laos.. Are you winding me up ??) so I run round the corner to 'toffee coffee' and the cute giggly girls working in there were easy to joke with.. First I want fresh coffee.. No problem.. Then I want XL size of it.. No problem.. Then I want 2 cups.. Still no problems.. Now I want to go (confusing them now but they find 2 huge paper cups).. and once it comes pour the 2 coffees from one into the other so its 4 coffees in there.. This has them in shock and laughing but all good.. I now have my pint of coffee and am happy.

    Back to the restaurant where the big fat mommas who run it and are holding court decide they have to teach me some Isaan (and I think there was some crude bits thrown in) but the whole place is now laughing and joking with us.. Good times and good people. Smiles and laughter the whole time.


    Hot pan eggs.. Surprisingly good.. If they just had a Laos bread it would have been perfect..


    She gets noodles, I get eggs, everyones a winner !!

    Really the old mammys that ran this place were great... Laughing, joking, piss taking, and all in fine spirits.. Just the kind of earthy real people you enjoy meeting and joking with.

    Back to the hotel, pack and try not to let myself get in a mood with them.. Nice hotel, run by grinches for whom everything was too much trouble. Packed the motor and back on the road.
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    It's such a shame when they make nit so fkn obvious that you are a farng and there to be taken advantage of...Can't imagine them pulling that kinda stuff on Khon Thai..they'd get a blast

    its kinda lucky that the large majority of ordinary folk make up for the cunts

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelsonone View Post
    It's such a shame when they make nit so fkn obvious that you are a farng and there to be taken advantage of...Can't imagine them pulling that kinda stuff on Khon Thai..they'd get a blast

    its kinda lucky that the large majority of ordinary folk make up for the cunts
    Agreed but fuck it, I could easily have got a grump on and let it ruin my morning, but as soon as we were out the door, everyone else we met in any way were super friendly and cool.. I just decided to take the good and ignore the bad.. But wanted to also make sure they get reviewed for it too.
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    Need to take a run up there, probably around 2 hours drive from mines
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    Pam is from up that way and I've got to admit the people there (in my experience at least) are pretty cool and cruisey,like a laugh and a good time.

    Most of those pics are really good also mate, last couple seem lower qual than the earlier ones, what did you use??, they're quite impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowy View Post
    Most of those pics are really good also mate, last couple seem lower qual than the earlier ones, what did you use??, they're quite impressive.
    Some are phone cam snaps (nexus 4.. Poor by todays phone standards) the rest are (I think) all GX1 tho my missus was carrying my Canon 450D so its possible that there maybe one or two of those mixed in.

    The clear ones and or shallow DOF will be the GX1.. I really quite like the red lantern shot, had to take that 'blind' holding it up above my head and it caught the focus just right.

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    So the next destination was Phu Reua.. This is a small town on the road between Loei heading Uttaradit direction.. I must have passed through 10 times in the last few months without even knowing that it has a tourist scene there for its mountain views.. Bee had seen it on some Thai travel show and of course that was 'above the clouds at dawn' kinda day..

    When we packed the car I kinda kicked the tires to check nothing was actually going to fall off, and didnt want to bring it up (as I would only get the nagging blame I truly deserved) but I was a bit unsure about the whole offset steering wheel and funny feel of the car.. Any way, if it was broken it was already broken no point in going slow.. What I soon discovered though was that it was screeching like mad when launched into a corner, especially on left handers.. For sure the tracking fucked but its a VW it will make it..

    Now earlier we were given the 'go west' direction when he meant go east.. It didnt seem that appealing but as we start to leave town you can see a big buddha on a hill just off the road, I needed gas and so as we pull in I tell the missus to ask the pump girl how to get to the buddha.. Ohh mai loo.. Ohh replies my wife your not from here then ?? Oh yes, born and bred, grew up here my whole life.. Have a think about that, this is a one horse town, theres not much in the way of 'attractions' and right the fuck there, in plain sight not 500m away, on the top of that hill is a large buddha, and having lived here your whole life, you dont know how to get to it !!! Would one day your curiosity (or boredom) not make you think about going and having a look ??

    Anyway, easily found.. Standard Buddha.. Lots of stairs.. Place to light candles.. Merit made, good luck purchased, and on our way.. (what ?? Me ?? Cynical ?? Never).. Easy hour or so through really nice countryside and some rolling hills and ridgelines we get to Phu Reua's little town. Of course the missus had been awake for at least a couple of hours by then, so was nap time through all the good country !!

    Just outside the town proper, theres a visible shrine which we went and had a look see..












    And lastly.. The beater that just wont die !! No matter how abused it gets treated..


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    As it was really early in the day, we were in no great hurry to find a room and plenty of time to check a few places out and have a scope up the hill so we knew where the best potential viewing for the next morning would be..

    One hotel my missus had seen on Thai TV travel show and made it look good was the Phura Bussaba just on the way into town on the east side.. Well its nothing like it may have been shown on TV.. 1500 b and was shown a very dumpy room that smelt of mildew and cigarettes, black mold in the bathroom, etc etc.. Yet it had tour busses pulling up to drop large amounts of people off, and there were 10s of cases in the lobby area for people departing. Baffles me how dumps command top money yet others dont.. Herd instinct alive and well I guess.

    After a bit of scoping and looking at some budget rooms 500 - 700 asking (on the road towards the national park) which would have been totally serviceable and fine for me, I finally settled on Waranya Resort, big clean rooms, nice furniture and decor, working wifi, nice gardens and most importantly of all, the assurance that the breakfast did indeed have filter coffee It felt a touch over priced at 1500 (1000 - 1200 would have been fair I felt) but wanted 'nice' with the missus. Also it was on the way up the hill and if we were going for a pre dawn run, easier to be close.

    Off to the nat park and not even a question on if I had Thai ID, Thai price x2 asked for from the get go.. While this isnt a super high mountain / hill, it is steep.. And we got caught behind some traffic going up, a chevy trailblazer that seemed to be making very hard work of getting up there which meant you couldnt keep your own speed and was annoyingly having to keep over revving 1st and dropping out of second because they couldnt seem to get a shift on. Theres enough of a climb here to make you want to check your coolant first !!

    We stop at a few different lookout points, including one that needed a small hike and ended in less of a lookout and more of a treeline.. The lookout could only be looked out from if you did some rock climbing which wasnt happening with my missus broken ankle..


    We went up to the summit where it said you needed to park and walk the last 1km.. That presented a bit of a potential problem but they run song teaows for 10b each way.. I presume the parking was designed that far away to create local employment opportunity and song teaow concession (cynical ?? Moi ??).. We also followed the road around to its termination at a camp site with showers toilets and some basic food retail too (mostly mama noodle type rather than yummy looking). At this campsite my missus asked what was close to the site that we could potentially be viewed or walked to with out a major hike.. This received a shrug and mai loo again (wonderful local knowledge at work) and we got the impression there was nothing much there.. When we went down the hill we stopped at the ranger station and I went in to ask a few things, turns out that one of the best waterfalls in the park are just a couple of 100m from this campground, yet none of the shops were able to explain that.

    Back down the hill to the hotel.. shower and off to find a feed.. There was a mention of a 'steak place' in town but eating steak in rural Thailand is probably not going to impress so we ended up finding a locals moo gata joint..


    Cold beer and BBQ'ed porky goodness, whats not to love ??

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    So awake bright and breezy and off up the hill.. It had been really murkey the last few days and I didnt expect to get the picture postcard 'above the white cloud' view and true to expectations, we didnt..

    At the summit the cloud cover rolled in and in the pre dawn and mist it was pretty chilly, which is I guess a large part of why people go there.. There were lots of people up there (no other farangs at all) and if you discount the hoping for a clear view it did what it said on the tin.. Cool air, pine trees, misty scene, shrine and gongs, etc etc..














    I just reread the above and it sort of sounds to myself that I am damning it with faint praise.. I am not, its just theres not that much you can say about cool air.. It was nice, it was also impressively rubbish free for an asian tourist location, clean and tidy.. It was cool air and I would happily do similar again.. In fact the missus is kinda gung ho about camping somewhere now too and I could get with that as well. I enjoyed it just theres not much you can say about it..

    Anyway after that it was back to the car park where they were BBQing rice and had cafe boran..





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    I stopped at that shrine 2 years ago,it was just a grey concrete dome.i did not realize it was still a work in progress.
    good to see the finished product.

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    OK.. So now if your the kinda person who doesnt want to hear anything negative about Thai social activity.. Best skip this post because rant mode is coming up..

    I dont know why it is, but Thai people just seem to be totally oblivious to inconveniencing others.. I mean absolutely blind to it.. I dont really get it as in so many other ways Thais are amazingly polite people, but when it comes to being in the way, they just dont seem to even see they are doing it.. I was trying to take photos up there, and while I havent put them on here most of the photos were with my missus in them and trying for clean backgrounds.. Now I know its busy, and if it was just someone accidentally walking into the frame then fair dos, it happens in a busy area..

    But people were literally walking right in front of me, just as I am about to shoot.. Sometimes walking right in front, between me and the missus, knowing full well what I am doing.. Sometimes they didnt even keep walking but just decided to stop there and have a good slackjawed gawk.. It was really raising my heartrate.. They are really all about the self and me first and just totally blind to their surroundings sometimes...

    It had me thinking also.. Its not only this situation, but in general that same theme is so common.. Parking blocking people in or out.. Shopping and marching straight in front of you while your doing something getting between you and what you were doing, if you pull them up they seem shocked that they did anything wrong.. I was reversing out of a parking space the other day and as I am doing it, already moving backwards, someone starts walking past the back of my car.. OK on the brakes, but then they get half way, and stop and turn and start a conversation with their mate.. They saw me reversing, walked directly in my path, then didnt get past as fast as they could, they chose that place to stand and have a chat !! Its the same not giving a shit about others that means they go 3 and 4 deep to a 2 lane traffic light, or push in in queues, etc.. I just find it strange, how a culture thats usually very civil, doesnt find this as rude as I do.. It seems normal and I am the odd one out.

    So we are up on the top of the summit.. And theres a sign with the elevation and of course my wife wants a picture.. So we wait for a few people to get their shots.. And another jumps in from the side but hey.. Jai yen yen.. Lets be cool.. Whats the rush.. But she is clearly stood there and waited more than her turn.. As she walks up to the spot (slowly with a broken ankle) a couple of women push past her to get their own shot.. But it goes like.. 2 or 3 front up.. And start calling their friends.. Who are all over.. No ones taking any photos, they have just monopolized the picture spot pushing in front of someone walking with a stick !! So the friends slowly gather, its been minutes already.. wheres granny ?? Grannys like 200m away.. And deaf.. They all shout for yai.. Who cant fucking hear.. But they wont take a picture without granny, so send the fat idiot boy child to go get granny.. Whose walking back the 200m on bandy legs at about 1 mile per fucking hour.. And finally after about 10 fucking minutes of dicking about, it finally occurs to him maybe he should get his camera out.. Now the assembled group of 10 are waiting on him.. So the camera comes out, but hes got his lens cap on.. Ohh how they all laughed.. Isnt he silly.. And then finally starts taking the shots, but hes got his flash on, and its not taking good pictures, and he doesnt understand his camera, or how to change the settings.. I swear it was like a fucking candid camera sketch.. I was expecting jeremy beadle to jump out with his stump fucking hand and a microphone.. As soon as he got the shots then one of the group wanted shots with their camera, and once this little idea filtered through thier heads they all wanted their own camera used, and iPad, and phone, and in 3 different group poses.. This went on for fucking ages !!!

    They pushed in front of my missus, while I was stood there, camera set up and ready, she would have been at that sign, picture taken and on our way.. Before they even realized granny was gone walkabouts.. Let alone before David Somchai Bailey worked out his lenscap was still on..

    Sometimes I wonder if I was cut out to live among other people. All evidence says solitary confinement would be preferable sometimes.
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    Now I don't want to be a smartass but I bought the Ex a Passat ( which the Golf evolved from IIRC)
    I had a similar thing happen after hitting a moon crater.
    Down on the steering column there may be a (?) push button/lever that will straighten your steering wheel.
    Sorry - can't straighten your alignment - I don't have a smartassfone but surely you can get an app for that.

    Thanks for the nice TR and personal insights 555!
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    So back down to the hotel.. Poor standard breakfast (sadly poor coffee too) but they tried.. When they saw I was less than stoked at rice options they hustled up some fried eggs and toast just for me and all in all made the effort and did so with a smile.. Thats counts for a lot to me, can do rather than cant do.

    Return journey, with the car making tire screetchy noises like the rockford files on only mildly fast corners and homeward bound.. all easy, only a couple of days but pretty good fun all told. Totally not the kind of tour I do solo, those involve fairly light karaokes and sniffing out trouble.. But I enjoyed it.. Its got me thinking about getting some camping gear and going to bits of national parks where there are not lots of people.. Its also got me thinking about buying a portable espresso machine.

    OK so couple of conclusions..

    Chiang Khan.. Interesting little town for an overnight.. Doubt I would want to spend much time there, but certainly not just a place to ride past without stopping, which I had done a couple of times. Its also a superb place to take a cuddlebunny as 1) its that very quintessential Thainess, which Thai girls love and makes them feel all proud.. 2) theres bugger all to spend any money on, not a gold shop in sight and 3) it shuts down early so theres not much to do except get to bed early and practice increasing the population.

    Phu Ruea.. You have to be in the mood for what it offers, again I enjoyed it, it was fun and a change of pace.. I know the missus wants to do Phu Chi Fa overnight and has already been looking online at some other peak for dawn in Mae Hong Song, so I guess shes into it.. Also I am finding I enjoy touring around in more Thai oriented tourism this last year.. Sure I like a few days in Patts or Bangkok etc but I am conscious of the samey samey kinda feeling I am getting from it.
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    Lastly.. The day after I am back.. I have a guy who does only shocks, can rebuild and repair them which I didnt even know you could do, I thought you just binned them.. So I take the motor along there..

    He checks it says they are fine.. I axplain I was on a really bad road, and its not fine.. Please chuck it back on the lift and lets have a look.. So it goes up and they are under the steerring points, the trackrods and tie rods.. Come back tell me its fine..

    No really.. I know its not let me go and have a look.. So stick my head under and feck me.. If the whole left hand wishbone isnt banana'ed.. A big solid bit of metal that wishbone too, not just a bar but the full plate section.. so I nudge the guys who were just telling me how 'fine' it all was and point it out and they have eyes like saucers.. Yep thats proper fucked mate.. I doubt it had much strength bent that bad also and still been hanging it out all the way home, screechy tires be damned. Seems you can almost kill it !!

    After that I went along to my mechanic buddy, who can get anything second hand and he ordered one up from bangkok next day.. 3k for the wishbone which could have been worse.. Lesson learnt, if your going to go on roads that potholed, make sure your going fast enough to only touch the top of the bumps !!

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    Comedy gold, mate.
    Would love to have been there and see your reactions in the flesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightemup View Post
    Comedy gold, mate.
    Would love to have been there and see your reactions in the flesh.
    You generally find it less funny when your with me..
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    Niiiice! great report and supers pics. Appreciate the time to post them. Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LivinLOS View Post
    OK.. So now if your the kinda person who doesnt want to hear anything negative about Thai social activity.. Best skip this post because rant mode is coming up..

    I dont know why it is, but Thai people just seem to be totally oblivious to inconveniencing others.. I mean absolutely blind to it.. I dont really get it as in so many other ways Thais are amazingly polite people, but when it comes to being in the way, they just dont seem to even see they are doing it.. I was trying to take photos up there, and while I havent put them on here most of the photos were with my missus in them and trying for clean backgrounds.. Now I know its busy, and if it was just someone accidentally walking into the frame then fair dos, it happens in a busy area..

    But people were literally walking right in front of me, just as I am about to shoot.. Sometimes walking right in front, between me and the missus, knowing full well what I am doing.. Sometimes they didnt even keep walking but just decided to stop there and have a good slackjawed gawk.. It was really raising my heartrate.. They are really all about the self and me first and just totally blind to their surroundings sometimes...

    It had me thinking also.. Its not only this situation, but in general that same theme is so common.. Parking blocking people in or out.. Shopping and marching straight in front of you while your doing something getting between you and what you were doing, if you pull them up they seem shocked that they did anything wrong.. I was reversing out of a parking space the other day and as I am doing it, already moving backwards, someone starts walking past the back of my car.. OK on the brakes, but then they get half way, and stop and turn and start a conversation with their mate.. They saw me reversing, walked directly in my path, then didnt get past as fast as they could, they chose that place to stand and have a chat !! Its the same not giving a shit about others that means they go 3 and 4 deep to a 2 lane traffic light, or push in in queues, etc.. I just find it strange, how a culture thats usually very civil, doesnt find this as rude as I do.. It seems normal and I am the odd one out.

    So we are up on the top of the summit.. And theres a sign with the elevation and of course my wife wants a picture.. So we wait for a few people to get their shots.. And another jumps in from the side but hey.. Jai yen yen.. Lets be cool.. Whats the rush.. But she is clearly stood there and waited more than her turn.. As she walks up to the spot (slowly with a broken ankle) a couple of women push past her to get their own shot.. But it goes like.. 2 or 3 front up.. And start calling their friends.. Who are all over.. No ones taking any photos, they have just monopolized the picture spot pushing in front of someone walking with a stick !! So the friends slowly gather, its been minutes already.. wheres granny ?? Grannys like 200m away.. And deaf.. They all shout for yai.. Who cant fucking hear.. But they wont take a picture without granny, so send the fat idiot boy child to go get granny.. Whose walking back the 200m on bandy legs at about 1 mile per fucking hour.. And finally after about 10 fucking minutes of dicking about, it finally occurs to him maybe he should get his camera out.. Now the assembled group of 10 are waiting on him.. So the camera comes out, but hes got his lens cap on.. Ohh how they all laughed.. Isnt he silly.. And then finally starts taking the shots, but hes got his flash on, and its not taking good pictures, and he doesnt understand his camera, or how to change the settings.. I swear it was like a fucking candid camera sketch.. I was expecting jeremy beadle to jump out with his stump fucking hand and a microphone.. As soon as he got the shots then one of the group wanted shots with their camera, and once this little idea filtered through thier heads they all wanted their own camera used, and iPad, and phone, and in 3 different group poses.. This went on for fucking ages !!!

    They pushed in front of my missus, while I was stood there, camera set up and ready, she would have been at that sign, picture taken and on our way.. Before they even realized granny was gone walkabouts.. Let alone before David Somchai Bailey worked out his lenscap was still on..

    Sometimes I wonder if I was cut out to live among other people. All evidence says solitary confinement would be preferable sometimes.
    I love this shit with Thais....I burst out laughing at them sometimes which I know is a dangerous passtime....but I just can't help it....555

    Less of a laugh is when its 2am and I am rolling in bed trying to sleep and the dull thud of bass is burning through my skull, the neighbours Karaoke machine is pumped to full bore and they have a half dozen of the local cats suffering under torture on the microphone...555

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivinLOS View Post
    Agreed but fuck it, I could easily have got a grump on and let it ruin my morning, but as soon as we were out the door, everyone else we met in any way were super friendly and cool.. I just decided to take the good and ignore the bad.. But wanted to also make sure they get reviewed for it too.
    But what did you expect for breakfast at a Thai run place in the boonies?

    When I am travelling like that, I just eat what they put out

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