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    Interesting about the police

    I went to a dinner party the other day and ended up talking to a local policeman. We talked about the traffic police and all the fines they give for missing licenses, helmets or speeding.
    The interesting part was about who get the money. Inside town 20% of the money went to the local Tesseban (government) while the rest went direct to the police. (split from the head police and down every month). If they collected the fines outside of town, the 20% went to head Government in BKK. The rest to the local police again.
    So no wonder the people heading to be no 1 police pays millions in bribes to get their jobs. Heard the head of Kathu Police district payed 40 mil Baht to get his 3 year in charge. At the end of the period I was told he expect to walk away with more than 70 mil.............

    Maybe time to change job???

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    I was told by a policeman in Phuket that 30% (or maybe 1/3rd ??) of any fines taken were the cops own bonus payment.. Properly accounted for and in the monthly accounting not just in the pocket style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivinLOS View Post
    I was told by a policeman in Phuket that 30% (or maybe 1/3rd ??) of any fines taken were the cops own bonus payment.. Properly accounted for and in the monthly accounting not just in the pocket style.
    That's what I understand it to be. I have never paid a fine directly to the police, always at the station with a receipt.

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    Same thing as the guy I talked to said except that 80% goes to the police. How it's split between the guy that actually wrote the fine and the others I didn't ask. He got a bit uncomfortable talking about it.....He made the impression to be at least half way up in the system, which made sense as it was quite a few successful business owners/rich people on the dinner party........

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    That's how I have also been told it Geir, only difference and not saying my details are correct, I was told 20% went to the policeman and 80% to the government. This made more sense to me, because I know that they have to pay to get into the police (think it was 70 or 700k, yes I know a bit different but can't remember), then they have to pay to get or accept their promotion.

    It also made sense, because if 80% went to the policeman legit, then why bother to not fill in a ticket to just get another 20% and have no record of doing your job? hence why I thought it was 20-80, 20% to the Policeman. The 10,20 or 30k drink driving fine is spread between all of them in the particular station, same as amounts collected to resolve disputes.
    Custard should be a colour...cos I could then paint over the mess I've just made!!!

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    At least they're upfront & "honest" about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
    That's how I have also been told it Geir, only difference and not saying my details are correct, I was told 20% went to the policeman and 80% to the government. This made more sense to me, because I know that they have to pay to get into the police (think it was 70 or 700k, yes I know a bit different but can't remember), then they have to pay to get or accept their promotion.

    It also made sense, because if 80% went to the policeman legit, then why bother to not fill in a ticket to just get another 20% and have no record of doing your job? hence why I thought it was 20-80, 20% to the Policeman. The 10,20 or 30k drink driving fine is spread between all of them in the particular station, same as amounts collected to resolve disputes.
    You might be right, but he didn't say that the policeman that write the fine get 80%......His local police station get 80%, and that amount get split within the police where the head policeman get the most................How could they otherwise justify paying millions to be chief of police??

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    Right.. I am sure it not just 20% in total to the cops.. With him getting a slice of that.. No incentive to write the ticket over taking a bung that way.

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    Hey it's a good system ... don't knock it, ok.

    Pulled up twice on recent long trips since installing a dash-cam and cops waved us on without asking for tea-money.

    Talking with a local Investigations friend yesterday it would appear that Australia (and other countries) are selling IT and hardware 'revenue-generating' expertise to Thailand ... includes speed camera's and Land Tax software. Bummer!
    Cheers, Rob.

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    Been pretty lucky... only time I was stopped at a police road block was outside Mukdahan and I was being driven in the casino van. They pushed and pushed the driver for a donation, but he absolutely refused. My guess is the casino is paying off plenty of people at high levels, so he didnt feel the least bit afraid. After 15 minutes or so of talking and him saying he'd done nothing wrong and wouldnt pay a dime and if they had a problem they could call his boss, who would make a few calls to the police... we eventually rolled on with nothing paid.

    All the other times I went through checkpoints, on 2 wheels or 4, they just waived me right through. Well, scratch that, there's been once or twice on big bikes that some jovial guy wants to look at the bike or practice his english. But otherwise, no issues at all.

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    Had an annoying stop the other day.. As you might have known from my Fakebook pics I crossed the border with a way overloaded car.. On those southern roads theres quite a few army and police check stops and of course my overloaded setup, both a Thai and Cambodian plated vehicles strapped together, got some attention and had to show the import docs.

    So I stop at one.. and the guy is checking papers.. And a boss guy comes out from the shade, walks over but cant speak english so is at a loose end.. Well of course he cant be the boss guy unless hes doing something, the other guy is doing my papers, he cant talk to me, so he goes round and starts untying my (very well done all working against each other set of ropes and tiedowns) strapping.. So I am trying to talk to papers guy, and nervously checking what the fuck hes doing in my mirrors.. I get out of the car.. "alai nah khap" hes fucking it up, pulling it about and basically weakening the whole thing.. Of course hes the boss man, so cant just stop !! No he then ends up with this big loose spool of rope, no idea what to do with it.. which he badly loops up and just ties on with a kak handed granny knot.. And as hes the boss man, I have to thank him for his effort.. Whish he puffs hes chest out and beams with pride.. Drive 200m up the road out of sight, stop and retie the whole thing hes just screwed about with !!

    Thats face.. Thats how it holds a whole country back.. Right there..

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Chalk it up to a new pub yarn and give the boys a laugh..................

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    and he was helping....imagine if he really wanted to be a cunt 555

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelsonone View Post
    and he was helping....imagine if he really wanted to be a cunt 555
    Its just the whole attitude of I know best and I am perfectly entitled to mess with another persons stuff / setup..

    Its a pet peeve.. the touching stuff thats not yours thing.. I would never sit on another blokes bike without first asking, yet the amount of times I come back and theres a thai guy sat on my bike, sometimes twisiting the throttle (flooding the carb) as tho hes 5 years old making brum brum noises, just blows my mind.. I also find they turn the petrol tap on / off and even mess with my adjustable brake levers !!! one time I set off hard, came up to a point, grabbed brakes and they were not where I expected them to be !! mild split second panic. Twonk slackened off the lever settings.

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